Here is something I came across on the Highly Sensitive and Creative facebookpage.

Joan Borysenko, PhD is a pioneer in integrative medicine and expert in the field of mind/body connection. – ‪#‎personalgrowth‬ ‪#‎transformation‬ ‪#‎spirituality‬ – Hear the full conversation with her in the Emerging Spirituality and Awareness online conference https://www.entheos.com/Emerging-Spirituality-and-Awareness?c=deby

https://soundcloud.com/douglaseby/joan-borysenko-on-being-aware-or-unaware